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After noticing that my ender 3 couldn't print a 'perfect' circle I decided to use a calibration cube to see if that could be the issue. These were my results:

X Y Z

I did have some successful prints before noticing these problems but it would be great if anyone could help/find a solution.

I think it may be because of the belts tension as I had accidentally over stretched it by putting it over the wheels instead of under: is it worth getting a new belt then?

I use 20% infill, with triangle pattern in cura, using the standard 0.4mm nozzle.

Edit

After doing a different testprint and measuring, it revealed that both had an accurate 20mm Y and Z, but only an 18.5mm X. Might I have destroyed my belt when I mounted it overstrained?

Edit2:

After purchasing a new X belt, the calibration cube was much closer at 19 x 20 x 20. But still not at a good enough tolerance for my liking. Additionally, when printing a cylinder, two relatively flat edges were printed with it either side (perpendicular to the x-axis).

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  • $\begingroup$ what are your slicer's settings for "number of top layers"? $\endgroup$
    – Trish
    Sep 8, 2018 at 16:33
  • $\begingroup$ @Trish I used Cura, would Slicer be better? For cura my top/bottom thickness is 0.6 mm; (the layer was 0.1 mm); the top thickness was 0.6 mm and top layers was 6 $\endgroup$
    – jb7852
    Sep 8, 2018 at 16:46
  • $\begingroup$ cura is perfectly fine. Any infill? what's the nozzle diameter? $\endgroup$
    – Trish
    Sep 8, 2018 at 16:48
  • $\begingroup$ @Trish 20% triangle infill. I don't know about the nozzle diameter: default for ender 3 1.75mm $\endgroup$
    – jb7852
    Sep 8, 2018 at 16:50
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    $\begingroup$ This looks like missing steps or binding in x direction. Does the carriage run smooth with depowered steppers (M84)? $\endgroup$
    – 0scar
    Sep 9, 2018 at 22:19

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Your top layer looks like you need to add additional top layers and there are signs of a slight bit of over-extrusion in that top layer (red). On the other hand, it looks like the top layer is not sliced nicely resulting in gaps and holes (yellow), which might be a fault of the test print.

Z, defects marked

The X on the file you used is not centered, resulting in the off look in the print.

I suggest you try a different calibration print before starting to tinker with the hardware, for example this.

I suggest to use concentric only for the top layers and instead rely on a simple Zig-Zag pattern for the intermediate layers, as this usually generates a better connection to straight walls.

EDIT1:

After considering the miss-dimension in X only, you might want to look to calibrate your X steps.

The stretching of the belt might be an issue, but you might get away easy if you just check belt tension and manage to get it right again.

As I have an ender-3 myself, I know you might need to flash fresh firmware to get the ability to change the steps/mm.

EDIT2:

The 19x20x20mm cube sounds like the new belt did fix a lot of the dimensioning problem, but the steps/mm might be slightly off - or we have to trace down SOME mechanical error in the movement path. As a 140mm long test print also had a 1mm offset, a steps/mm error should be out.

After examining the machine with jb in chat, the bearing on the X-belt seemed to stick a tiny bit on one side.

Ender3 X-tightener/bearing

Turning the large bolt of the assembly in an attempt to disassemble it without a wrench to hold the self-securing nut on the far side seemed enough to lessen the pressure on the core of the bearing, allowing it to spin freely. In addition, the belt was a little loose.

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  • $\begingroup$ I 100% agree. Do you have any idea why my main issue was occurring i.e. the X wasn't centered/how squares came out rectangular and circles as ovals. I feel like it must be a belt problem $\endgroup$
    – jb7852
    Sep 8, 2018 at 16:48
  • $\begingroup$ The x side is 18 mm though as if its squashed $\endgroup$
    – jb7852
    Sep 8, 2018 at 16:55
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    $\begingroup$ @jb7852 The X of the calibration cube from Thingiverse that you printed, is not in the center in the STL! I see the X off centered in my test cubes also. Note that this does not explain the 18 mm in size! $\endgroup$
    – 0scar
    Sep 9, 2018 at 12:28
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First, check that the calibration part you have is actually a cube. Maybe you downloaded a trick 'calibration cube' model. Cura will show he overall dimensions of any model which it is slicing.

Ignore any print quality issues first off. A hollow calibration cube is mainly used to check the X/Y/Z motion and so long as you print at a sensible (slow) speed), the other parameters shouldn't have much effect (so long as the first layer is OK, and you get within 30% of the right extrusion).

If the calibration cube is within +/- 0.5mm on each side, it's probably good. Under/over extrusion, caliper technique, etc, can explain this sort of variation, and you might want to use a bigger test part like this star on my thingiverse account once you think you're close.

The 'steps per mm' setting is determined within the firmware, it is part of how your printer consumes G-code. For a delta printer, for example, there is some fancy maths to combine X/Y/Z into the motor movements. This means that you can't change steps/mm in Cura, you need to either change the firmware defaults and 'reset to factory settings', or modify the parameters in EEPROM by sending G-code.

Seeing too small a calibration part (for a Cartesian printer) can easily be explained by problems in the printer's motion system:

  • Stepper missing steps due to jerk or acceleration too high
  • Stepper missing steps due to binding/friction in the bearings (Send M84 to idle the stepper motor, and move X by hand)
  • Teeth missing on the drive belt (may show up on a diagonal 'bar' print)
  • Loose drive pinion (maybe backlash on the flat on the spindle means the problem is greater on small parts) - see below
  • Flex in the drive mechanism (e.g. belt mount to traveller is loose)

An annoying feature of a lot of these problems is that for any particular repetitive sequence of steps, you might see a very consistent result. Even thought to problem is something being badly adjusted, it gives the impression that the problem is calibration.

The drive wheel is held in place with a grub screw, see this diagram from the Anet-A8 assembly diagram.

Anet X-drive

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  • $\begingroup$ the inadequate first test cube model was what I suspected, but both having X=18/18.5 instead of 20 as in the model is a good sign something is off. $\endgroup$
    – Trish
    Sep 9, 2018 at 11:36
  • $\begingroup$ @Trish So after purchasing a new X belt, the calibration cube was much closer at 19 x 20 x 20. But still not at a good enough tolerance. Additionally, when printing a cylinder, two relatively flat edges were printed with it either side (perpendicular to the x-axis), thoughts? $\endgroup$
    – jb7852
    Sep 11, 2018 at 12:33
  • $\begingroup$ Similar to this reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/2zw4zn/… $\endgroup$
    – jb7852
    Sep 11, 2018 at 12:34
  • $\begingroup$ It feels relatively smooth, no bumps anything $\endgroup$
    – jb7852
    Sep 11, 2018 at 12:57
  • $\begingroup$ Would tightening the belt in some way help e.g. on the motor or the point pictured here. imgur.com/gallery/6nvme2n $\endgroup$
    – jb7852
    Sep 11, 2018 at 13:06

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