# Exhaust air solution

Can you think of a preferably cheap solution for me? I need a machine that pumps air out of my 3d printing enclosure, about 4 meters of pipe length. (From enclosure to window) What kind of pump or fan can pump air out of the enclosure (4m pipe length) at the lowest possible price and low volume?

I need it for cooling purposes and for better general air quality in my room after opening the printer enclosure.

It doesn't need to be top notch equipment, just enough for my purposes.

• Get a used cpap machine Mar 20 '19 at 21:57

Air flows from places of higher pressure to those of less.

## Minimal setup

I propose to look at a very simple setup which works for short lengths of pipe:

• Choose if you want a radial fan of a direct passing fan. get one, measure the intake and the outlet side holes
• cut a fan inlet-sized hole directly into the back of the enclosure.
• mount your fan onto it, most likely with some kind of foam to keep the airstream in.
• get a flexible air vent hose (I have seen ~$10/10€ for a 100mm one) and measure the inner diameter. • print an adapter from the fan outlet to the vent hose. • mount the adapter, then the hose, use clamps to secure it. • lead the air vent hose to the window and out or into a wall through. Even if the airstream doesn't seem to be very fast, you could test it with smoke to see that it will blow out the air on the other end of the hose. The large diameter lets quite some air out with just a "gentle" airstream. This is not a very efficient system though, as we build up a pressure in the pipe the fan wors against. ## efficiency gains To gain efficiency, we should move the fan away from the machine and closer to the outlet. That means, we need to increase the fan power. If you can get your hand on, for example, an in-pipe motor, that would be a solution, but usually an expensive one. If you are good with electrics, you could use a blower from an electric cloths-drier. You might get a clothes-drier to strip the motor from really cheap, for example from a renovation, recycling facility or Craigslist, e-bay or any other auction or classifieds-page. Or you build your own from an electric motor (you could use your machine's power supply here), a housing made from wood and an impeller, which you can get as a "Dryer Blower Wheel" spare part for under$50. If you connect the power for its motor through a regulatable resistor, you could even control its spinning speed.

To cope with the suction, we need to use aluminium flex pipe on the arm between machine and exhaust.

## go big

If you want to go industrial like if you want to run a laser cutter, you will need to go industrial in the vent size too. You use pretty much the same diameter aluminium flex pipe and a much stronger motor than the drier one, and you don't mount the motor directly to the machine back but somewhere downstream as it's rather loud. For what to look for in that case, I found a very good article here. Note though, that this is not a small setup, but you could possibly vent a whole batch of printers through one pump, using some airstream cutoffs to control which ones get currently evacuated.

• I strongly recommend putting the fan at the exit port of the ductwork. Most fans work much better dumping into open air (no back-pressure). Mar 21 '19 at 14:10
• @CarlWitthoft true for most applications with a huge air movement. I would actually go with a two-fan solution (one to blow air into the machine to aid in having a pressure gradient, one sucking out) Mar 21 '19 at 14:25
• @CarlWitthoft expanded on that thought - kinda the "middle ground" on pricing. Mar 21 '19 at 14:47

Well you can get a centrifugal fan and put it at either end of the pipe. You didn't specify a pipe diameter so I'll assume it's 1 inch. Just hook the pipe up to the exhaust. You will have to design and print an adapter.

• I already tried using a standard fan but it was way to weak.. do you really think such a fan has enough power to blow air over 4 meters of pipe? The other fan I used could only creat a nice wind in a range of 30 cm...
– user12769
Mar 21 '19 at 5:56
• @DonaldEnte there's no such thing as "standard fan" :-) . If you want to use a squirrelcage, pick one to match your ductwork diameter and check the CFM (cubic ft/minute) output rating. Mar 21 '19 at 14:12
• @CarlWitthoft Do you know a specific squirrelcage fan that will do the job for me? Because I am not really a fan specialist and dont want to buy something that doesnt work for me.. :-)
– user12769
Mar 21 '19 at 15:15
• mybe the VKO Turbo 150 pipe fan?
– user12769
Mar 21 '19 at 15:48